Sunday, October 1, 2023

Great Grandfather Elias W. Bartlett Sr. ~ Brick Wall

 During the 1980’s, I began searching for my family connections. While I was searching, I came across the name of my Great Grandfather Elias Bartlett listed as the father of my Grandmother Jennie (Bartlett) Lyles’ 1926 death certificate. I though, the name Elias, sounded like he didn’t have a first name.

As I continued searching, I made some inquires to the Carrollton County Genealogy Society about my Bartlett family. In reply, a lady from Carrollton, Missouri sent me copies of the 1870 and 1880 Missouri census records listing Elias’s household in Wakenda, Carroll, Missouri.

On the 1870 United States Federal Census,
Elias was listed with his first wife Rachel and their children who carried the Bartlett surname:
William born in 1852 and Warren born in 1854
John born in 1855 and Fanny born in 1859
Lena born in 1862 and Harriet born in 1865

On the1880 United States Federal
 Census,
Elias was listed with his second wife Harriett , children and a grandmother;
Sally born in 1865, Charles born in 1867, and Lucy born in 1869.
Elias Jr. who was born in 1879.
William (who was a widow on the 1880) was listed on the 1870.
Grandmother, Hannah Hooper was born in ca 1765 who living with the Bartletts.

In November of 2022, I located Harriett with her three children on the 1870 Missouri census.
Sally was born in 1865, Charles was born in 1867 and Lucy was born in 1869 and
Hannah was born in 1890.
They were listed in the HELSIN Household with the HELSIN surname.
I don’t think that HELSIN was the surname of Harriett and her children along with Hannah.

I’ve been back tracking the sources on Elias W. Bartlett Sr. his wife Harriett and children.
Records of Elias’ were from...
1870 and 1880 United States Federal Census For Carroll County in Missouri
The December 29, 1876 marriage recorded of Elias BARTLEY married Harriet HUGHES.

Daughters’ death records:
Jennie LYLES in 1926 , Juanita ARMSTRONG in 1929 and Lucy HORAN in 1940.
Lucy’s father was listed as Mr. Bartlett. However, he was her step father.

Crop photo of Juanita BARTLETT ARMSTRONG’s 1929 death certificate.




It’s still a mystery to what happened to Elias Sr.
 
Could he have passed in 1900 in Carrollton, Missouri?

Some of the Bartletts moved to St. Joseph, Missouri.
Unknown to what brought them there.

Lucy was married in St Joe in August of 1900.
Paul was living there around 1900 according to his 1956 obituary
Jennie was living there in 1902 according to her marriage record.

Even though the Bartletts were listed on the Missouri census in Carrollton, Missouri in June of 1900, they moved to St. Joseph sometime after the 1900 census was taken. There was a Elias Bartlett listed on the 1901 city directory in St. Joseph, Missouri. It didn’t stated if he was a Sr. or Jr.

There was an Elias W. Bartlett Jr. listed in the city directory in 1904.
Elias Jr. moved to Oklahoma City around 1906. He was listed in their city directory.
Harriet was listed as the widow of Elias Sr. on the 1905 city directory.
This was the first mention of Harriet in St. Joe.
I believe that Harriet was in St. Joseph the same time her son Paul was in 1900.

Hoping for information:

I believe that there is still hope in finding some things about Elias Sr. and Harriet.
I’m waiting on information on the death notice of Elias Bartlett who passed on October 7, 1920 in Oklahoma. Also, I came across Elias Jr.’s name as Eli BARTLEY and Elias BARTLEY in the Oklahoma City Directories. (Update: The info about  Elias Jr.'s death notice was the correct Elias son of Elias Sr. and Harriett.)


I wonder. Could the family surname have been BARTLEY or perhaps BARTLE?
Jennie’s maiden name was spelled BARTLE when she married John BLAKEY on July 28, 1902 in Excelsior Springs, Clay, Missouri.

Elias W. Bartlett Sr. life is still a brick wall, along with his family listed on the 1870 census.

I wonder. Was Elias, Alex Bartlett? This was the father’s name on Paul Bartlett’s 1936 social security application and claims index information. I’m hoping that there will be more clues in the years to come to uncover the Bartlett family mysteries. Someone may have the pieces to this mystery.

Even the maiden name of Harriett is a brick wall.
Was her maiden name HUGHES, HELSIN, HOOPER, FISHER, or BUFFINGTON? I’m thinking that it was BUFFINGTON source from Lucy’s 1939 social security application and claims index information.

Thanks for reading.
Great Grandfather Elias W. Bartlett Sr. ~ Brick Wall #52Ancestors In Week 21

S.A. Blakley

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Great Grandfather Elias W. Bartlett Sr. ~ Brick Wall #52Ancestors In Week 21
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The theme for Week 21 is “Brick Wall.” ~Amy Johnson Crow #52Ancestors In 52 Weeks Challenge

Do you have an ancestor (or 4) who you can’t seem to make any progress on in your research? This would be a good week to write about that ancestor and really think about what you know about that ancestor, how you know it, and wh

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